DC in September : let's start from scratch by relaunching 50 books

wolf_2099 · Post by **wolf_2099** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:35 pm

XIII wrote:Oh my God, looks like DC decided to publish all their shitty creative teams on the same day. Those are seriously bad :

LEGION LOST by Fabian Nicieza and Pete Woods
LEGION OF SUPERHEROES by Paul Levitz and Francis Portela
TEEN TITANS by Scott Lobdell, Brett Booth and Norm Rapmund (check the cover if you dare, then get away from the computer unless you want it drowned in your own puke...)
STATIC SHOCK by writers John Rozum and Scott McDaniel, art by McDaniel and Jonathan Glapion
 HAWK AND DOVE by Sterling Gates and Rob Liefeld

Yes. Rob fucking Liefeld. What the fuck? Thank you Bob Harras for bringing the 90s back! So cool! Sure, sure, sure, Mackie will be taking over Superman.

Hey I like Fabian Nicieza.

MGM · Post by **MGM** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:24 pm

Lobdell's X-Men run wasn't so bad either.

MGM · Post by **MGM** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:25 pm

Also, that's actually an improvement of Tim's costume.

jedispyder · Post by **jedispyder** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:44 pm

XIII wrote:TEEN TITANS by Scott Lobdell, Brett Booth and Norm Rapmund (check the cover if you dare, then get away from the computer unless you want it drowned in your own puke...)

Yeah, that cover looks like shit. The costumes are horrendous, it's like the title should be Teen Titans 2099. Definitely not picking this one up.

I'm actually not surprised by Liefeld doing Hawk and Dove. When they reintroduced in Teen Titans several years ago, he was the one doing art and making them look fugly.

XIII · Post by **XIII** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:57 pm

MGM wrote:Also, that's actually an improvement of Tim's costume.

Too bad he is missing pooches on his thighs. And just how cool is Superboy with his badass tatoo? So badass!

Tragic Angelus · Post by **Tragic Angelus** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:35 pm

I do not like Tim's redesign, as I really really enjoy Red Robin right now. That cover looks absolutely horrible...

That being said, I will probably get the first issue to see what's going on, and who's who. After that, who knows.

And I was so excited about Hawk & Dove when I saw Sterling Gates' name as writer. Then saw Liefeld, and almost cried because I was so disappointed. I can't believe he's working for them, and ruined what could've been a book I'd been looking forward to, as I've been waiting to see something from Gates this whole time. What a let down.

wolf_2099 · Post by **wolf_2099** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:01 pm

No one likes hoof feet?

http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http ... 00&bih=775

Stocky Boy · Post by **Stocky Boy** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:58 pm

Have you guys seen the cover art for Hawk and Dove?

Hawk's torso seems to be half as long as it needs to be.
http://i.newsarama.com/images/hkdv_cv1_ ... dmd_02.jpg

I kind of like what they've gone for with the Robin's costume. I'm not sold on it, but I like the general idea of making it more 'robin'-like. An A for effort at the very least.
Some of the other outfits look like they've been pulled from the 90's wardrobe.

MGM · Post by **MGM** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:07 am

Yes, agreed to that. I like Robin's outfit, but the belts across his chest are too much.

MGM · Post by **MGM** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:07 am

Y'know, I didn't even know Liefeld was still in the business. Where did they dig up his corpse?

Tragic Angelus · Post by **Tragic Angelus** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:16 pm

Ok, so here's the update as we hit the final countdown:

1. JUSTICE LEAGUE #1 by Geoff Johns and Jim Lee
2. WONDER WOMAN #1 by Brian Azzarello and Cliff Chiang
3. AQUAMAN #1 by Geoff Johns and Ivan Reis
4. THE FLASH #1 by Francis Manapul and Brian Buccellato
5. THE FURY OF FIRESTORM #1 by Ethan Van Sciver, Gail Simone and Yildiray Cinar
6. THE SAVAGE HAWKMAN #1 by Tony Daniel and Philip Tan
7. GREEN ARROW #1 by JT Krul and Dan Jurgens
8. JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL #1 by Dan Jurgens and Aaron Lopresti
9. MISTER TERRIFIC #1 by Eric Wallace and Roger Robinson
10. CAPTAIN ATOM #1 by JT Krul and artist Freddie Williams II
11. DC UNIVERSE PRESENTS #1 (Deadman) by Paul Jenkins and Bernard Chang
12. BATMAN AND ROBIN #1 by Peter Tomasi and Pat Gleason
13. BATMAN: THE DARK KNIGHT by David Finch and Jay Fabok
14. BATMAN #1 by Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo
15. DETECTIVE COMICS #1 by Tony Daniel.
16. GREEN LANTERN #1 by Geoff Johns and Doug Mahnke
17. GREEN LANTERN CORPS #1 by Peter J. Tomasi, Fernando Pasarin and Scott Hanna
18. GREEN LANTERN: THE NEW GUARDIANS #1 by Tony Bedard, Tyler Kirkham and Batt
19. RED LANTERNS #1 by Peter Milligan, Ed Benes and Rob Hun
20. BATGIRL #1 by Gail Simone, Ardian Syaf and Vicente Cifuentes
21. BATWOMAN #1 by JH Williams & W Haden Blackman, Amy Reeder
22. CATWOMAN #1 by Judd Winnick and Guillem March
23. BIRDS OF PREY #1 by Duane Swierczynski and Jesus Saiz
24. NIGHTWING #1 by Kyle Higgins and Eddy Barrows?
25. RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS #1 by Scott Lobdell and Kenneth Rocafort
26. BATWING #1 by Judd Winick and Ben Oliver
27. JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK #1 by Peter Milligan and Mikel Janin
28. SWAMP THING #1 by Scott Snyder and Yanick Paquette
29. DEMON KNIGHTS #1 by Paul Cornell and Diogenes Neves and Oclair Albert
30. FRANKENSTEIN: AGENT OF SHADE #1 by Jeff Lemire and Alberto Ponticelli
31. ANIMAL MAN #1 by Jeff Lemire and Travel Foreman and Dan Green
32. RESURRECTION MAN #1 by Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning (DnA) and Fernando Dagnino
33. I, VAMPIRE #1 by Josh Fialkov and Andrea Sorrentino
34. VOODOO #1 by Ron Marz and Sami Basri
35. LEGION LOST by Fabian Nicieza and Pete Woods
36. LEGION OF SUPERHEROES by Paul Levitz and Francis Portela
37. TEEN TITANS by Scott Lobdell, Brett Booth and Norm Rapmund
38. STATIC SHOCK by writers John Rozum and Scott McDaniel, art by McDaniel and Jonathan Glapion
39.  HAWK AND DOVE by Sterling Gates and Rob Liefeld
40. STORMWATCH by Paul Cornell and Miguel Sepulveda
41. BLACKHAWKS by Mike Costa and Ken Lashley
42. SGT. ROCK AND THE MEN OF WAR by Ivan Brandon and Tom Derenick
43. ALL-STAR WESTERN by Justin Gray & Jimmy Palmiotti and Moritat
44. DEATHSTROKE by Kyle Higgins and Joe Bennett & Art Thibert
45. GRIFTER by Nathan Edmondson and CAFU & BIT
46. OMAC by Dan Didio and Keith Giffen and Scott Koblish.
47. BLUE BEETLE by Tony Bedard and Ig Guara & Ruy Jose
48. SUICIDE SQUAD by Adam Glass and Marco Rudy
49. Action Comics by Grant Morrison and Rags Morales
50. Superman by George Perez and Jesus Merino
51. Superboy by Scott Lobdell and RB Silva
52. Supergirl by Mike Green, Mike Johnson and Mahmud Asrar

Now, we know we have Superman still to come, rumored to feature writing and art by George Perez, along with Supergirl and Superboy based on leaked covers. That also still leaves us Action Comics as well I would assume. Now, originally DC mentioned Grant Morrison on a Superman related book, so he either has Action or potentially Superboy (Or, those books are the same book). This leaves us with either 2 or 3 books left. What haven't we seen yet?

JSA
Power Girl
Booster Gold

Those are the three higher number (40s/50s) titles DC has right now that jump to my mind. Anyone else?

Tragic Angelus · Post by **Tragic Angelus** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:06 pm

My DC Pull list for September so far:

JLA
Green Lantern
Wonder Woman
Aquaman
Flash
Batman
Batwoman
Green Arrow
The Fury of Firestorm

Trials on First issue:
Green Lantern: New Guardians
Batgirl
Teen Titans
Stormwatch

Possibly:
Superman
Supergirl

Books I'm losing because I don't want to get them/they aren't being released:
Birds of Prey
Zatanna
Red Robin

Most likely, I won't stick around for Supergirl. I think, with books I'm loosing and adding, I'm barely adding any more than 2-3 books total from my current DC Pull list. And those 1st issue trials, outside of Batgirl and New Guardians, probably won't go any further than that single issue.

Tragic Angelus · Post by **Tragic Angelus** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:30 pm

UPDATE: DC's 'The Edge' line of books has been updated with 2 additional titles, 1 each released to CBR and Newsarama

Blue Beetle staring Jaime Reyes and Suicide Squad featuring Harley Quinn, Deadshot, King Shark and more.

Given that King Shark is now a Hammerhead shark and Deadshot looks like Wolverine during the Weapon X Program, I'd say it's safe to bet we're in a whole new universe folks.

Edits added in to previous post.

MGM · Post by **MGM** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:52 pm

Stormwatch by Cornell, yes.

jedispyder · Post by **jedispyder** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:54 pm

I don't really think Deadshot looks all too different. In fact, he looks a bit more clunkier than usual with his helmet not being smooth like before. I'm intrigued by the title because of Deadshot and Harley Quinn, don't care too much about King Shark. May try it, not sure yet...

XIII · Post by **XIII** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:54 am

Tragic, Morrison is apparently doing Action Comics with Rags Morales. Superboy will be by Lodbell.

Out of the latest bunch, I'm defo getting Grifter. Also, All Star Western but only when the back up strips are done by interesting creators (Darwyn Cooke highly expected).

Also, good thing DC came to their senses and kicked Robinson out. Guy had lost it. Did get the Starman omnibus out of his comeback so it wasn't a 100% failure.

Tragic Angelus · Post by **Tragic Angelus** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:22 am

Man, I love Rags but not a big Morrison fan. I really only want to pick up one Superman book, just like with Batman so I may try just the Perez Superman. Not sure yet.

Also, I have no problem with Robinson being gone for now.

I think I'm leaving Supergirl at this point. There's really only one name I could care to see on her book and rumor doesn't have them there so I think I'll pass. I haven't liked the book as much since Gates & Igle left, and I'd open the spot up for something else, like Batgirl.

XIII · Post by **XIII** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:01 pm

Here you have it, the 4 missing books :

Action Comics : Grant Morrison and Rags Morales
Superman : George Perez and Jesus Merino
Superboy : Scott Lobdell and RB Silva
Supergirl : Mike Green, Mike Johnson and Mahmud Asrar

Might give Action Comics a try.

Tragic Angelus · Post by **Tragic Angelus** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:08 pm

Full list updated. Not surprised at all by the endings of course.

Rags is about the only thing making me want to get Action, but I don't know if this is going to be a 6-7 year project for Morrison on Superman similar to how his Batman stuff was. Because if it is I'll probably end up passing. Really am done with Supergirl so it will probably just be Superman for me.

jedispyder · Post by **jedispyder** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:34 pm

I'm definitely on for Action. I am Morrison's whore

I don't think I'll pick up Adjective-less and definitely no to the other 2.