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I'm just getting kind of tired of how movies are being optioned and production is starting on books that are what, 2 issues in? I get that they're banking on his books being huge hits, but it seems to like they're becoming huge hits in terms of sales because they're being optioned for movies, and people are wanting to get on it before the movie comes out... it's just feeding into itself.

From a business strategy, it's pretty good as it hypes the project in both mediums.

But.. from a readers point of view for me, it's kind of annoying. I'm glad there's interest in the medium, but I wish they'd look at either completed works or something that has a little more to it than 2 issues.

That's just me.

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XIII wrote:Mark Millar really needs to shut the fuck up. Saying this is the biggest news in his carreer is rubbish. I'm starting to hate the guy.
He really just needs to shut the fuck up and finish writing these series instead of doing 2 issues and optioning them.

He may as well just write a script and stop with the comics.
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The only reason Millar isn't flat out writing comic scripts for movies is because he hasn't gotten his "big break" yet. I remember as far back 06 or 05 reading articles about Millar trying to break into Hollywood's film writing scene by writing scripts for superhero based films. Unfortunately for him his ideas kept getting rejected so he stuck to writing comics. In a lot of those articles it was heavily implied that Millar wants to first and foremost write scripts for movies and comics second.

Millar submitted numerous scripts for a Superman film before & after Superman Returns came out but none of them were picked up. What Millar then began doing was optioning off his comic books as films and got quite a few hits and though he's had a lot of success on that front, he's still waiting to get the The Call from Hollywood to come down and write a script for them.

This guy is gonna bail as soon as he gets the chance and I'm not begrudiing him wanting to do film scritps but stop pretending otherwirse.

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In other news Green Lantern 2 & 3 are reportedly already in development:

Latino Review, generally a pretty reliable source as far as film rumors go, reported an interesting one Friday: that two Green Lantern sequels are already in development, and will be in production by the time the first one hits theaters next summer.

Not completely surprising, but this is: according to the article, “sources say” Warner Bros. wants one in 2012 and one in 2013, meaning a Lord of the Rings trilogy-esque pace of three GL films in three years.

As the post points out, if true, this almost surely means an expansion of the Green Lantern movie universe, and, hopefully, big-screen debuts for Corps members like Kyle Rayner, John Stewart, Guy Gardner. Why stop there? Let’s end the work week daydreaming about a big-screen Isamot Kol, or who’d we cast as Soranik Natu.

The Green Lantern feature film is scheduled for release on June 17, 2011 and stars Ryan Reynolds, Blake Lively, Mark Strong and Peter Sarsgaard.

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Here's how Kilowog is going to look like in GL:

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If that's legit, I'm slightly disappointed.. he doesn't have as big of a face as I'd expect. Nose, chin, I feel like it should be a bit bigger, broader, and stretch out further. Although maybe there'll be more to it, like the costume.

And it gives off a very Jim Henson vibe, which I really really really like. If not Henson than any other company that model's they're process. I do like the look that they've done, though I wish it was more like I'd assume he looks.

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It's legit. Funnily enough, the website that got the exclusive was told by the studio to remove the picture for copyright reasons (or the usual reasons) yet luckily BleedingCool weaseled their way to it. I do agree that the ears are off, but the nose and such kinda remind me of what he looked like in Rebirth. I'll wait until I see him in action before I really make a clear decision.

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I have a feeling a lot of images from the GL film will need to be seen in the film to have a final decision made on them.

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Tragic Angelus wrote:I have a feeling a lot of images from the GL film will need to be seen in the film to have a final decision made on them.
What DC is doing with the GL movie is pretty exciting; it has the potential to be either a huge win or a huge loss. It's a lot like Matrix revolutionizing fight scenes with Bullet-Time.

DC is experimenting with a new way to depict a costume onto a person in a live action movie. Unlike in previous films where the stop-motion technology was used to completely render a person as CGI (Gollum, Voldermort, Venom, Sonny from I, Robot) the GL costume covers some/most of the body leaving the face untouched and it makes look kind of weird. However, since it's kind of new territory, it'll be trial and error, BUT if DC gets it right, they'll probably change the way costumes are shown on the big screen.

In order for this to be sucessfull, a large part of this depends on how well the action sequences are shot and how well it flows with a 3/4ths covered CGIed guy. If WB can pull this off, its going to change the way we see costumes the big screen going forward.

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About the Kilowog look, I don't mind some of the creative liberties that were taken in tweaking Kilowog's appearence. In the end, he's just a giant space pig so its really wide open to interpretation. I remember reading Sinestro Corp., and though Kilowog does obviously have a set appearence, every artist draws him in his/her own way with slight adjustments and edits to the look; nothing major changes but sometimes, the head is a bit smaller or bigger, the mouth is wider etc...

In this film f his snout isn't wide enough or if his ears are pulled back a bit I'm okay with it because he still generally looks like what I'd picture Kilowog to be, and he retains the persona of an intimidating, larger than life Drill Sergeant.

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That's a good point, and I agree it'll definitely be trial/error for this film. Tho I'm not sure it'll necessarily change the way we see all costumes. I understand using it for GL since he makes his costume from his ring, but on other heroes, until they nail the process down to be flawless, it could look wrong.

I think it'd work great on capes like with Batman and Superman possibly, and even the Flash if they go a Wally West way where he creates his costume from the Speed Force, but not sure about those who make it and put it on like Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, etc.

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I think it'll work great on characters like Spider-man, Batman, Flash or pretty much anyone superhero. It's all about reducing the bulk a costume a character has to wear.

If you look at Batman's costume, it looks pretty good but its still big & bulky and it limits the movement of the person inside the suit. This is especially obvious in fight scenes. The fight scenes look good but you get a sense of how slow Batman is moving due to the heavy body armor, unturnable head & legwear. owever, the director geniusly counteracts this by having most of the fight scenes snippets and in the dark i.e. Batman begins fight scene in the docks where Bats makes his debut. Nolan made the atmosphere more of horror by not showing what Bats was doing. However, I feel he also probably did that ebcause if he showed a prolonged battle sequence you'd wonder why these guys are having so much trouble hitting a slow moving, yet heavily armored, guy.

If WB could nail down this process of CGIing the whole suit, it would carry all the benefits of making the costume look as cool as it does in the comics, but without the ridiculousness of how it would otherwise look in real life.

Battle sequences would be much smoother and quicker if it's just a guy wearing a form hugging one-piece bodysuit with those electrodes attached to him to mimic his movements, rather than a guy weighed down by 15 pounds of armor sluggishly moving through a herd of bad guys.

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Well I can definitely understand using it on Batman in that point of view and necessity. I suppose it could come down and work out really well, though part of me would still like to see some, like Superman or Spider-Man have a real costume. I don't think Spider-Man's looked that bad, honestly. It was a little thick, yes, but I felt it really worked. But I could see how it would work well on some, and yeah, begin reducing some of the limitations costumes have actually put on the films.

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Yes, I agree that certain heroes should wear a regular costume like Superman & Spider-man. I just meant that even though CGIing of whole costumes sounds like the wave of the future (if done right) some heroes should maintain the classic clothed look.

One character whose costume I can see as going either way (but I'm leaning towards CGI) is Wonder Woman. There was one picture that was released several years ago during the production of WW that had actress Colbie Smulders decked out as Wonder Woman, and that looked really good. However, I'm not sure if that was officially sanctioned by WB or if it was just someone photoshopping in their spare time.

However, as good as that look was, I feel that a CGIed WW costume would look so much better. She could retain almost all the classic look without having to worry about if her boobs will pop out.

Other character costumes I can see CGI working with are Spawn, Robin, Aquaman (not that they'll ever make an Aquaman movie. EVAR), DareDevil, Elektra, Green Arrow, & the X-Men. There are lots more but I cant think of them right now.

In other news Scott Pilgrim totally bombed at the box office.

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CGI Green Arrow? really? I'm very curious to see an explaination for that one.

Though, honestly, when considerinng this, Aquaman was one of the first ones that came to mind, because I think it would work great and help with the underwater aspect, and I'm sure they'd be using tons of it to layer the film as it is, and it could give off great lighting/shimmering affects if the costume was as well.

Spawn I think was predominantly CGI costumed, or at the very least the Cape was all they did, but I think capes could be a great CGI'd efffect anyways.

For the X-Men, I'd say it just depends on the ability. Colossus, Iceman sure, or someone like Angel or Storm or Jean using her abiltities, similar to the Aquaman vibe.

Yeah, I heard Pilgrim bombed, but had tons of rave reviews. It seems more people wanted to watch every action star over 45 get together and blow each other up instead.

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Green Arrow does not need to be CGI, his costume is one of the most normal type. Just look at what they've done with it in Smallville, I think that works quite well. No need to be CGI there.

Scott Pilgrim was fucking amazing. Plain and simple. Felt exactly like the graphic novel, over the top and exciting all the while making you feel like you're in a video game or campy tv show.

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I have no real interest in Scott Pilgrim to be honest. Never read the books, and while I know it's like an American style manga, it still has that manga feel that really does not appeal to me.

However, I really do like from the clips how they have a lot of the motion lines, sound effects, and other effects that make comics their special medium that they are integrated right into the actual film. I really really do like the way it looks in previews, and hope it translated well to the film itself. I am upset though to see another comic movie perform at less than stellar. Which surprised me with the amount of publicity it got everywhere, and the cast it had with the likes of Evans and Schwartzman, who I think looked suited for what I could get out of their rolls. Shame to see.

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Why would you want a CGI Green Arrow? Errol Flynn for the win!!!

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Kilowog looks a bit too old and like an ugly but cuddly monster. Maybe in the film his appearance won't come across as cuddly.
We can't see much, but it appears that he'll have a large, broad frame. I like this, but again, with the withered old man face, it looks like he's hunched over. Again, hopefully, it works out well in the film.

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I forgot to post it but they have pictures of a couple other alien GLs, most look...interesting.

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