The Wire

Mr Wallstreet · Post by **Mr Wallstreet** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:02 pm

Ahhh so you've gotten up to that part yet. That was, I think the height of McNulty's craziness.

MGM · Post by **MGM** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:15 pm

Well, he can't get ANY MUCH crazier than what he's doing right now. Shit, I'm actually starting to dislike the motherfucker.

Mr Wallstreet · Post by **Mr Wallstreet** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:25 pm

Really? I thought his idea was both hilarious and ingenious. An actual moment of clarity for him.

What do you think of the newspaper writers?

MGM · Post by **MGM** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:52 pm

The obvious reaction: Gus is a good journalist, the girl as potential but is new and the hack is just that: a hack.

While McNulty's idea is hilarious, and maybe even ingenious, I find it impossible to believe that the Freeman of the first four seasons would do such shit. And I dunno, it irritates me that MCNulty's falling back into his old habits again. Although the grain has been sowed to make him back down again, but the growth in his character is gone.

MGM · Post by **MGM** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:02 pm

Of all the shit they pull.... kidnapping a homeless guy? Shiiiit.

Randy! Being all like he wasn't supposed to be and still got to be.

Omar being awesome again.

MGM · Post by **MGM** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:53 am

Oh fuck, Omar!

MGM · Post by **MGM** » Fri May 01, 2009 7:14 pm

Shit, Michael the new Omar?

Great show all in all, but I have to say the Barksdale/Bell storyline was by far the best. Too bad that was also the first storyline.

Mr Wallstreet · Post by **Mr Wallstreet** » Mon May 04, 2009 9:25 am

MGM wrote:The obvious reaction: Gus is a good journalist, the girl as potential but is new and the hack is just that: a hack.

While McNulty's idea is hilarious, and maybe even ingenious, I find it impossible to believe that the Freeman of the first four seasons would do such shit. And I dunno, it irritates me that MCNulty's falling back into his old habits again. Although the grain has been sowed to make him back down again, but the growth in his character is gone.

I think the main reason Freeman went along with Jimmy's plan was due to his exasperation with the department. After spending 15 years sitting in a basement whittling furniture, he came out of "retirement" and kicked ass but was then met with dead ends and empty promises compounded by his superiors outright refusal to let him do his job.

In cop/law shows, one of the biggest ongoing themes are how system isn't perfect; I think Freeman's decision to completely manipulate and deceive the system is a commentary on just how broken and/or far gone the Baltimore police/justice department is that a man like Lester Freeman would stoop to breaking the rules.

McNulty himself is a great character study. Heâ€™s selfish, yet selfless. He wants to help innocents even if he hurts his friends, family and peers. McNultyâ€™s decline into his self-destructive habits has always been linked to his job.

The reason I donâ€™t think all of McNultyâ€™s character growth is gone or diminished is because as great a detective as McNulty is (and he is a great det.) his work is slowly killing him and everyone around him knows it. I think itâ€™s got something of an irony and tragedy written all over it. McNulty is a great police officer but canâ€™t stay a police officer due to his inability to deal with the day-to-day stresses and frustrations that come along with being a police officer so the one thing he great at, he has to give up to save himself. Further the one thing he is great at, is a selfless and noble cause which are at complete odds with his personality and attitude which is self-serving

Mr Wallstreet · Post by **Mr Wallstreet** » Mon May 04, 2009 9:27 am

MGM wrote:Shit, Michael the new Omar?

Great show all in all, but I have to say the Barksdale/Bell storyline was by far the best. Too bad that was also the first storyline.

Seeing Omar take one in the head shocked the hell out of me. I didn't expect everyone would live and suspected that Omar would die, I just didn't see how.

Agreed on the Barksdale storyline.

MGM · Post by **MGM** » Mon May 04, 2009 2:59 pm

Especially the way how he went. I expected him to be taken down by Marlowe's people, not get punked by a little tyke.

Too bad Michael went the way he went, but basically that can be said of all the young ones, with Duquan becoming a junkie and Randy becoming a thug.

Loved the end of Bubbles, though.

Mr Wallstreet · Post by **Mr Wallstreet** » Mon May 04, 2009 3:51 pm

Ahh yes Bubbles and Duquan.

Bubbles journey was one of the best character evolutions I've seen in a show. When the show started, Bubbles wasn't at rock bottom; he was a junkie for sure, but he still had a moral code of sorts. He hit rock bottom when his the child under his care O.D'ed because of him. I think that was his defining moment, when he realized his addiction wasn't just killing him but someone he cared for died because of it.

For me, Duquan's fate was the saddest of them all. Of all his friends, Duquan got the worst deal. His lifestyle, family, circumstances and everything else had decided his fate for him. In the end, Duquan never really had a chance.

Randy may be a thug now and will most likely start working for one of the drug runners when he gets out, but I think Carver might be able to pull him out of gang life.

It's appropriate that the show end with Bubbles and McNulty coming out changed for the better in the end (It did start with the two of them). Bubbles found redemption and McNulty laid his demons to rest once and for all.

One of the best parts of this season was the end. As McNulty was bringing back the homeless guy they kidnapped, an extended (or full version - I'm not really sure) of the theme song was playing over the dawn of a new day in Baltimore.

What did you think of Jimmy's choice to leave the PD, Herc working for the lawyer and Daniels getting the shaft?

MGM · Post by **MGM** » Mon May 04, 2009 4:14 pm

McNulty leaving the PD was of course the best course. He wasn't fired because he couldn't get fired, but the boat would've killed him. I think he in the end also realised he really needed to change, since he was driving his... girlfriend, I suppose, away. Again. And he obviously didn't want that.

I NEVER cared for Herc, I found him the weakest link on the entire show, every season again. Him working for the lawyer fits perfectly with how I view him, but somehow it doesn't suit the character. He was always about catching the bad guys, and now he was working for them.

Daniels getting the shaft was very disappointing, but on the other hand it definitely fits the theme of the show: politics and personal gain always go over the good cause.